diff --git a/docs/software/TODO.md b/docs/software/TODO.md
index ded8796de..c4569cbda 100644
--- a/docs/software/TODO.md
+++ b/docs/software/TODO.md
@@ -4,16 +4,26 @@ You probably don't care about this section - skip to the next one.
 
 1.2 cleanup & multichannel:
 
-* remove deprecated
+* DONE remove deprecated
 * allow chaning packets in single transmission
-* fix setchannel in phoneapi.cpp
-* set mynodeinfo.max_channels
-* set mynodeinfo.num_bands (formerly num_channels)
+* DONE fix setchannel in phoneapi.cpp
+* DONE set mynodeinfo.max_channels
+* DONE set mynodeinfo.num_bands (formerly num_channels)
+* fix sniffing of non Routing packets
+* move portnum up?
+* scrub protobufs to make sure they are absoloute minimum wiresize (in particular packets, ChannelSets and positions)
 * send a hint that can be used to select which channel to try and hash against with each message
 * change syncword
-* move acks into routing
-* make all subpackets different versions of data
-* move routing control into a data packet
+* DONE move acks into routing
+* DONE make all subpackets different versions of data
+* DONE move routing control into a data packet
+* have phoneapi done via plugin
+* figure out how to add micro_delta to position, make it so that phone apps don't need to understand it?
+* only send battery updates a max of once a minute
+* add multichannel support in python
+* add channel selection for sending
+* record recevied channel in meshpacket
+* add channel restrictions for plugins (and restrict routing plugin to the "control" channel)
 * make a primaryChannel global and properly maintain it when the phone sends setChannel
 * move setCrypto call into packet send and packet decode code
 * implement'small locations' change?
diff --git a/proto b/proto
index 481beb41b..65914b84f 160000
--- a/proto
+++ b/proto
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 481beb41ba8c8f39bfc6b3f397d6107af04dfb93
+Subproject commit 65914b84f1ee8f25807187d60b43ad29dfbaedc3
diff --git a/src/graphics/Screen.cpp b/src/graphics/Screen.cpp
index f7193260f..a2c74ba7e 100644
--- a/src/graphics/Screen.cpp
+++ b/src/graphics/Screen.cpp
@@ -216,8 +216,7 @@ static void drawTextMessageFrame(OLEDDisplay *display, OLEDDisplayUiState *state
 
     // the max length of this buffer is much longer than we can possibly print
     static char tempBuf[96];
-    assert(mp.decoded.which_payloadVariant == SubPacket_data_tag);
-    snprintf(tempBuf, sizeof(tempBuf), "         %s", mp.decoded.data.payload.bytes);
+    snprintf(tempBuf, sizeof(tempBuf), "         %s", mp.decoded.payload.bytes);
 
     display->drawStringMaxWidth(4 + x, 10 + y, SCREEN_WIDTH - (6 + x), tempBuf);
 }
diff --git a/src/mesh/Channels.cpp b/src/mesh/Channels.cpp
index 584a83bc8..510510ca3 100644
--- a/src/mesh/Channels.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/Channels.cpp
@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@ void setCrypto(size_t chIndex)
 
 void Channels::initDefaults()
 {
-    devicestate.channels_count = MAX_CHANNELS;
+    devicestate.channels_count = MAX_NUM_CHANNELS;
     for (int i = 0; i < devicestate.channels_count; i++)
         fixupChannel(i);
     initDefaultChannel(0);
diff --git a/src/mesh/DSRRouter.cpp b/src/mesh/DSRRouter.cpp
index 8b1e6f67e..04d4a2bef 100644
--- a/src/mesh/DSRRouter.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/DSRRouter.cpp
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ ErrorCode DSRRouter::send(MeshPacket *p)
         return ReliableRouter::send(p);
 }
 
-void DSRRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
+void DSRRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c)
 {
     // Learn 0 hop routes by just hearing any adjacent nodes
     // But treat broadcasts carefully, because when flood broadcasts go out they keep the same original "from".  So we want to
@@ -72,25 +72,25 @@ void DSRRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
         addRoute(p->from, p->from, 0); // We are adjacent with zero hops
     }
 
-    switch (p->decoded.which_payloadVariant) {
-    case SubPacket_route_request_tag:
+    switch (c.which_variant) {
+    case Routing_route_request_tag:
         // Handle route discovery packets (will be a broadcast message)
         // FIXME - always start request with the senders nodenum
-        if (weAreInRoute(p->decoded.route_request)) {
+        if (weAreInRoute(c.route_request)) {
             DEBUG_MSG("Ignoring a route request that contains us\n");
         } else {
-            updateRoutes(p->decoded.route_request,
+            updateRoutes(c.route_request,
                          true); // Update our routing tables based on the route that came in so far on this request
 
             if (p->decoded.dest == getNodeNum()) {
                 // They were looking for us, send back a route reply (the sender address will be first in the list)
-                sendRouteReply(p->decoded.route_request);
+                sendRouteReply(c.route_request);
             } else {
                 // They were looking for someone else, forward it along (as a zero hop broadcast)
                 NodeNum nextHop = getNextHop(p->decoded.dest);
                 if (nextHop) {
                     // in our route cache, reply to the requester (the sender address will be first in the list)
-                    sendRouteReply(p->decoded.route_request, nextHop);
+                    sendRouteReply(c.route_request, nextHop);
                 } else {
                     // Not in our route cache, rebroadcast on their behalf (after adding ourselves to the request route)
                     resendRouteRequest(p);
@@ -98,14 +98,14 @@ void DSRRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
             }
         }
         break;
-    case SubPacket_route_reply_tag:
-        updateRoutes(p->decoded.route_reply, false);
+    case Routing_route_reply_tag:
+        updateRoutes(c.route_reply, false);
 
         // FIXME, if any of our current pending packets were waiting for this route, send them (and leave them as regular pending
         // packets until ack arrives)
         // FIXME, if we don't get a route reply at all (or a route error), timeout and generate a routeerror TIMEOUT on our own...
         break;
-    case SubPacket_error_reason_tag:
+    case Routing_error_reason_tag:
         removeRoute(p->decoded.dest);
 
         // FIXME: if any pending packets were waiting on this route, delete them
@@ -131,7 +131,7 @@ void DSRRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
                 assert(p->decoded.source); // I think this is guaranteed by now
 
                 // FIXME - what if the current packet _is_ a route error packet?
-                sendRouteError(p, ErrorReason_NO_ROUTE);
+                sendRouteError(p, Routing_Error_NO_ROUTE);
             }
 
             // FIXME, stop local processing of this packet
@@ -139,18 +139,18 @@ void DSRRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
 
         // handle naks - convert them to route error packets
         // All naks are generated locally, because we failed resending the packet too many times
-        PacketId nakId = p->decoded.which_ackVariant == SubPacket_fail_id_tag ? p->decoded.ackVariant.fail_id : 0;
+        PacketId nakId = c.fail_id;
         if (nakId) {
             auto pending = findPendingPacket(p->to, nakId);
             if (pending && pending->packet->decoded.source) { // if source not set, this was not a multihop packet, just ignore
                 removeRoute(pending->packet->decoded.dest);   // We no longer have a route to the specified node
 
-                sendRouteError(p, ErrorReason_GOT_NAK);
+                sendRouteError(p, Routing_Error_GOT_NAK);
             }
         }
     }
 
-    return ReliableRouter::sniffReceived(p);
+    ReliableRouter::sniffReceived(p, c);
 }
 
 /**
@@ -230,7 +230,7 @@ void DSRRouter::sendNextHop(NodeNum n, const MeshPacket *p)
 /**
  * Send a route error packet towards whoever originally sent this message
  */
-void DSRRouter::sendRouteError(const MeshPacket *p, ErrorReason err)
+void DSRRouter::sendRouteError(const MeshPacket *p, Routing_Error err)
 {
     DEBUG_MSG("FIXME not implemented sendRouteError\n");
 }
diff --git a/src/mesh/DSRRouter.h b/src/mesh/DSRRouter.h
index 02c0f2775..eef1a991c 100644
--- a/src/mesh/DSRRouter.h
+++ b/src/mesh/DSRRouter.h
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ class DSRRouter : public ReliableRouter
      * Every (non duplicate) packet this node receives will be passed through this method.  This allows subclasses to
      * update routing tables etc... based on what we overhear (even for messages not destined to our node)
      */
-    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p);
+    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c);
 
     /**
      * Send a packet on a suitable interface.  This routine will
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@ class DSRRouter : public ReliableRouter
     /**
      * Send a route error packet towards whoever originally sent this message
      */
-    void sendRouteError(const MeshPacket *p, ErrorReason err);
+    void sendRouteError(const MeshPacket *p, Routing_Error err);
 
     /** make a copy of p, start discovery, but only if we don't
      *  already a discovery in progress for that node number.  Caller has already scheduled this message for retransmission
diff --git a/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.cpp b/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.cpp
index f2b718835..777178c41 100644
--- a/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.cpp
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ bool FloodingRouter::shouldFilterReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
     return Router::shouldFilterReceived(p);
 }
 
-void FloodingRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
+void FloodingRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c)
 {
     // If a broadcast, possibly _also_ send copies out into the mesh.
     // (FIXME, do something smarter than naive flooding here)
@@ -48,5 +48,5 @@ void FloodingRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
     }
 
     // handle the packet as normal
-    Router::sniffReceived(p);
+    Router::sniffReceived(p, c);
 }
diff --git a/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.h b/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.h
index ca7ee489f..3e4f5de6e 100644
--- a/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.h
+++ b/src/mesh/FloodingRouter.h
@@ -55,5 +55,5 @@ class FloodingRouter : public Router, protected PacketHistory
     /**
      * Look for broadcasts we need to rebroadcast
      */
-    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p);
+    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c);
 };
diff --git a/src/mesh/MeshPacketQueue.cpp b/src/mesh/MeshPacketQueue.cpp
index 363e83ba7..56db3feb3 100644
--- a/src/mesh/MeshPacketQueue.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/MeshPacketQueue.cpp
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ void fixPriority(MeshPacket *p)
     if (p->priority == MeshPacket_Priority_UNSET) {
         // if acks give high priority
         // if a reliable message give a bit higher default priority
-        p->priority = p->decoded.which_ackVariant ? MeshPacket_Priority_ACK :                
+        p->priority = (p->decoded.portnum == PortNum_ROUTING_APP) ? MeshPacket_Priority_ACK :                
                           (p->want_ack ? MeshPacket_Priority_RELIABLE : MeshPacket_Priority_DEFAULT);
     }
 }
diff --git a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp
index ebaee49a6..7befb6623 100644
--- a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.cpp
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ void MeshPlugin::callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp)
         auto &pi = **i;
 
         pi.currentRequest = &mp;
-        if (pi.wantPortnum(mp.decoded.data.portnum)) {
+        if (pi.wantPortnum(mp.decoded.portnum)) {
             pluginFound = true;
 
             bool handled = pi.handleReceived(mp);
@@ -50,7 +50,7 @@ void MeshPlugin::callPlugins(const MeshPacket &mp)
     }
 
     if(!pluginFound)
-        DEBUG_MSG("No plugins interested in portnum=%d\n", mp.decoded.data.portnum);
+        DEBUG_MSG("No plugins interested in portnum=%d\n", mp.decoded.portnum);
 }
 
 /** Messages can be received that have the want_response bit set.  If set, this callback will be invoked
diff --git a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h
index 01af58114..1c90f8829 100644
--- a/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h
+++ b/src/mesh/MeshPlugin.h
@@ -31,6 +31,12 @@ class MeshPlugin
   protected:
     const char *name;
 
+    /* Most plugins only care about packets that are destined for their node (i.e. broadcasts or has their node as the specific recipient)
+    But some plugs might want to 'sniff' packets that are merely being routed (passing through the current node).  Those plugins can set this to
+    true and their handleReceived() will be called for every packet.
+    */
+    bool isPromiscuous = false;
+
     /**
      * If this plugin is currently handling a request currentRequest will be preset
      * to the packet with the request.  This is mostly useful for reply handlers.
diff --git a/src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp b/src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp
index 9347ef0fd..3cc6b000b 100644
--- a/src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@
 
 #include "FS.h"
 
+#include "Channels.h"
 #include "CryptoEngine.h"
 #include "FSCommon.h"
 #include "GPS.h"
@@ -16,7 +17,6 @@
 #include "configuration.h"
 #include "error.h"
 #include "main.h"
-#include "Channels.h"
 #include "mesh-pb-constants.h"
 #include <pb_decode.h>
 #include <pb_encode.h>
@@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ void NodeDB::init()
     loadFromDisk();
     // saveToDisk();
 
-    myNodeInfo.max_channels = MAX_CHANNELS; // tell others the max # of channels we can understand
+    myNodeInfo.max_channels = MAX_NUM_CHANNELS; // tell others the max # of channels we can understand
 
     myNodeInfo.error_code =
         CriticalErrorCode_None; // For the error code, only show values from this boot (discard value from flash)
@@ -394,7 +394,7 @@ void NodeDB::updateUser(uint32_t nodeId, const User &p)
 void NodeDB::updateFrom(const MeshPacket &mp)
 {
     if (mp.which_payloadVariant == MeshPacket_decoded_tag) {
-        const SubPacket &p = mp.decoded;
+        const Data &p = mp.decoded;
         DEBUG_MSG("Update DB node 0x%x, rx_time=%u\n", mp.from, mp.rx_time);
 
         NodeInfo *info = getOrCreateNode(mp.from);
@@ -406,18 +406,8 @@ void NodeDB::updateFrom(const MeshPacket &mp)
 
         info->snr = mp.rx_snr; // keep the most recent SNR we received for this node.
 
-        switch (p.which_payloadVariant) {
-
-        case SubPacket_data_tag: {
-            if (mp.to == NODENUM_BROADCAST || mp.to == nodeDB.getNodeNum())
-                MeshPlugin::callPlugins(mp);
-            break;
-        }
-
-        default: {
-            notifyObservers(); // If the node counts have changed, notify observers
-        }
-        }
+        if (mp.to == NODENUM_BROADCAST || mp.to == nodeDB.getNodeNum())
+            MeshPlugin::callPlugins(mp);
     }
 }
 
diff --git a/src/mesh/ProtobufPlugin.h b/src/mesh/ProtobufPlugin.h
index a5c0aea15..d931185e0 100644
--- a/src/mesh/ProtobufPlugin.h
+++ b/src/mesh/ProtobufPlugin.h
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
  * If you are using protobufs to encode your packets (recommended) you can use this as a baseclass for your plugin
  * and avoid a bunch of boilerplate code.
  */
-template <class T> class ProtobufPlugin : private SinglePortPlugin
+template <class T> class ProtobufPlugin : protected SinglePortPlugin
 {
     const pb_msgdesc_t *fields;
 
@@ -38,8 +38,8 @@ template <class T> class ProtobufPlugin : private SinglePortPlugin
         // Update our local node info with our position (even if we don't decide to update anyone else)
         MeshPacket *p = allocDataPacket();
 
-        p->decoded.data.payload.size =
-            pb_encode_to_bytes(p->decoded.data.payload.bytes, sizeof(p->decoded.data.payload.bytes), fields, &payload);
+        p->decoded.payload.size =
+            pb_encode_to_bytes(p->decoded.payload.bytes, sizeof(p->decoded.payload.bytes), fields, &payload);
         // DEBUG_MSG("did encode\n");
         return p;
     }
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ template <class T> class ProtobufPlugin : private SinglePortPlugin
         // FIXME - we currently update position data in the DB only if the message was a broadcast or destined to us
         // it would be better to update even if the message was destined to others.
 
-        auto &p = mp.decoded.data;
+        auto &p = mp.decoded;
         DEBUG_MSG("Received %s from=0x%0x, id=0x%x, payloadlen=%d\n", name, mp.from, mp.id, p.payload.size);
 
         T scratch;
diff --git a/src/mesh/RadioInterface.cpp b/src/mesh/RadioInterface.cpp
index 0d99ca2ff..08ac40d5d 100644
--- a/src/mesh/RadioInterface.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/RadioInterface.cpp
@@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
 
 #include "RadioInterface.h"
+#include "Channels.h"
 #include "MeshRadio.h"
 #include "MeshService.h"
 #include "NodeDB.h"
 #include "assert.h"
 #include "configuration.h"
 #include "sleep.h"
-#include "Channels.h"
 #include <assert.h>
 #include <pb_decode.h>
 #include <pb_encode.h>
@@ -122,17 +122,9 @@ void printPacket(const char *prefix, const MeshPacket *p)
               p->hop_limit);
     if (p->which_payloadVariant == MeshPacket_decoded_tag) {
         auto &s = p->decoded;
-        switch (s.which_payloadVariant) {
-        case SubPacket_data_tag:
-            DEBUG_MSG(" Portnum=%d", s.data.portnum);
-            break;
-        case 0:
-            DEBUG_MSG(" Payload:None");
-            break;
-        default:
-            DEBUG_MSG(" Payload:%d", s.which_payloadVariant);
-            break;
-        }
+        
+        DEBUG_MSG(" Portnum=%d", s.portnum);
+
         if (s.want_response)
             DEBUG_MSG(" WANTRESP");
 
@@ -142,10 +134,11 @@ void printPacket(const char *prefix, const MeshPacket *p)
         if (s.dest != 0)
             DEBUG_MSG(" dest=%08x", s.dest);
 
+        /* now inside Data and therefore kinda opaque
         if (s.which_ackVariant == SubPacket_success_id_tag)
             DEBUG_MSG(" successId=%08x", s.ackVariant.success_id);
         else if (s.which_ackVariant == SubPacket_fail_id_tag)
-            DEBUG_MSG(" failId=%08x", s.ackVariant.fail_id);
+            DEBUG_MSG(" failId=%08x", s.ackVariant.fail_id); */
     } else {
         DEBUG_MSG(" encrypted");
     }
@@ -156,9 +149,9 @@ void printPacket(const char *prefix, const MeshPacket *p)
     if (p->rx_snr != 0.0) {
         DEBUG_MSG(" rxSNR=%g", p->rx_snr);
     }
-    if(p->priority != 0)
+    if (p->priority != 0)
         DEBUG_MSG(" priority=%d", p->priority);
-        
+
     DEBUG_MSG(")\n");
 }
 
diff --git a/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.cpp b/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.cpp
index 3bc8bfde5..3dc07c9c9 100644
--- a/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.cpp
@@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ bool ReliableRouter::shouldFilterReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
         // the original sending process.
         if (stopRetransmission(p->from, p->id)) {
             DEBUG_MSG("Someone is retransmitting for us, generate implicit ack\n");
-            sendAckNak(ErrorReason_NONE, p->from, p->id);
+            sendAckNak(Routing_Error_NONE, p->from, p->id);
         }
     }
 
@@ -53,20 +53,20 @@ bool ReliableRouter::shouldFilterReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
  *
  * Otherwise, let superclass handle it.
  */
-void ReliableRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
+void ReliableRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c)
 {
     NodeNum ourNode = getNodeNum();
 
     if (p->to == ourNode) { // ignore ack/nak/want_ack packets that are not address to us (we only handle 0 hop reliability
                             // - not DSR routing)
         if (p->want_ack) {
-            sendAckNak(ErrorReason_NONE, p->from, p->id);
+            sendAckNak(Routing_Error_NONE, p->from, p->id);
         }
 
         // If the payload is valid, look for ack/nak
 
-        PacketId ackId = p->decoded.which_ackVariant == SubPacket_success_id_tag ? p->decoded.ackVariant.success_id : 0;
-        PacketId nakId = p->decoded.which_ackVariant == SubPacket_fail_id_tag ? p->decoded.ackVariant.fail_id : 0;
+        PacketId ackId = c.success_id;
+        PacketId nakId = c.fail_id;
 
         // We intentionally don't check wasSeenRecently, because it is harmless to delete non existent retransmission records
         if (ackId || nakId) {
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ void ReliableRouter::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
     }
 
     // handle the packet as normal
-    FloodingRouter::sniffReceived(p);
+    FloodingRouter::sniffReceived(p, c);
 }
 
 #define NUM_RETRANSMISSIONS 3
@@ -155,7 +155,7 @@ int32_t ReliableRouter::doRetransmissions()
             if (p.numRetransmissions == 0) {
                 DEBUG_MSG("Reliable send failed, returning a nak fr=0x%x,to=0x%x,id=%d\n", p.packet->from, p.packet->to,
                           p.packet->id);
-                sendAckNak(ErrorReason_MAX_RETRANSMIT, p.packet->from, p.packet->id);
+                sendAckNak(Routing_Error_MAX_RETRANSMIT, p.packet->from, p.packet->id);
                 // Note: we don't stop retransmission here, instead the Nak packet gets processed in sniffReceived - which
                 // allows the DSR version to still be able to look at the PendingPacket
                 stopRetransmission(it->first);
diff --git a/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.h b/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.h
index 62d555389..bf0338f9b 100644
--- a/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.h
+++ b/src/mesh/ReliableRouter.h
@@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ class ReliableRouter : public FloodingRouter
     /**
      * Look for acks/naks or someone retransmitting us
      */
-    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p);
+    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c);
 
     /**
      * Try to find the pending packet record for this ID (or NULL if not found)
diff --git a/src/mesh/Router.cpp b/src/mesh/Router.cpp
index 5178e229b..f20cf02bf 100644
--- a/src/mesh/Router.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/Router.cpp
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@
 #include "configuration.h"
 #include "mesh-pb-constants.h"
 #include <NodeDB.h>
+#include "plugins/RoutingPlugin.h"
 
 /**
  * Router todo
@@ -101,27 +102,9 @@ MeshPacket *Router::allocForSending()
 /**
  * Send an ack or a nak packet back towards whoever sent idFrom
  */
-void Router::sendAckNak(ErrorReason err, NodeNum to, PacketId idFrom)
+void Router::sendAckNak(Routing_Error err, NodeNum to, PacketId idFrom)
 {
-    auto p = allocForSending();
-    p->hop_limit = 0; // Assume just immediate neighbors for now
-    p->to = to;
-    DEBUG_MSG("Sending an err=%d,to=0x%x,idFrom=0x%x,id=0x%x\n", err, to, idFrom, p->id);
-
-    if (!err) {
-        p->decoded.ackVariant.success_id = idFrom;
-        p->decoded.which_ackVariant = SubPacket_success_id_tag;
-    } else {
-        p->decoded.ackVariant.fail_id = idFrom;
-        p->decoded.which_ackVariant = SubPacket_fail_id_tag;
-
-        // Also send back the error reason
-        p->decoded.which_payloadVariant = SubPacket_error_reason_tag;
-        p->decoded.error_reason = err;
-    }
-    p->priority = MeshPacket_Priority_ACK;
-
-    sendLocal(p); // we sometimes send directly to the local node
+    routingPlugin->sendAckNak(err, to, idFrom);
 }
 
 
@@ -138,7 +121,7 @@ ErrorCode Router::sendLocal(MeshPacket *p)
 
         // ERROR! no radio found, report failure back to the client and drop the packet
         DEBUG_MSG("Error: No interface, returning NAK and dropping packet.\n");
-        sendAckNak(ErrorReason_NO_INTERFACE, p->from, p->id);
+        sendAckNak(Routing_Error_NO_INTERFACE, p->from, p->id);
         packetPool.release(p);
 
         return ERRNO_NO_INTERFACES;
@@ -162,9 +145,8 @@ ErrorCode Router::send(MeshPacket *p)
 {
     assert(p->to != nodeDB.getNodeNum()); // should have already been handled by sendLocal
 
-    PacketId nakId = p->decoded.which_ackVariant == SubPacket_fail_id_tag ? p->decoded.ackVariant.fail_id : 0;
-    assert(
-        !nakId); // I don't think we ever send 0hop naks over the wire (other than to the phone), test that assumption with assert
+    // PacketId nakId = p->decoded.which_ackVariant == SubPacket_fail_id_tag ? p->decoded.ackVariant.fail_id : 0;
+    // assert(!nakId); // I don't think we ever send 0hop naks over the wire (other than to the phone), test that assumption with assert
 
     // Never set the want_ack flag on broadcast packets sent over the air.
     if (p->to == NODENUM_BROADCAST)
@@ -179,7 +161,7 @@ ErrorCode Router::send(MeshPacket *p)
     if (p->which_payloadVariant == MeshPacket_decoded_tag) {
         static uint8_t bytes[MAX_RHPACKETLEN]; // we have to use a scratch buffer because a union
 
-        size_t numbytes = pb_encode_to_bytes(bytes, sizeof(bytes), SubPacket_fields, &p->decoded);
+        size_t numbytes = pb_encode_to_bytes(bytes, sizeof(bytes), Data_fields, &p->decoded);
 
         assert(numbytes <= MAX_RHPACKETLEN);
         crypto->encrypt(p->from, p->id, numbytes, bytes);
@@ -212,7 +194,7 @@ bool Router::cancelSending(NodeNum from, PacketId id) {
  * Every (non duplicate) packet this node receives will be passed through this method.  This allows subclasses to
  * update routing tables etc... based on what we overhear (even for messages not destined to our node)
  */
-void Router::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p)
+void Router::sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c)
 {
     DEBUG_MSG("FIXME-update-db Sniffing packet\n");
     // FIXME, update nodedb here for any packet that passes through us
@@ -234,7 +216,7 @@ bool Router::perhapsDecode(MeshPacket *p)
     crypto->decrypt(p->from, p->id, p->encrypted.size, bytes);
 
     // Take those raw bytes and convert them back into a well structured protobuf we can understand
-    if (!pb_decode_from_bytes(bytes, p->encrypted.size, SubPacket_fields, &p->decoded)) {
+    if (!pb_decode_from_bytes(bytes, p->encrypted.size, Data_fields, &p->decoded)) {
         DEBUG_MSG("Invalid protobufs in received mesh packet!\n");
         return false;
     } else {
@@ -262,7 +244,8 @@ void Router::handleReceived(MeshPacket *p)
     if (perhapsDecode(p)) {
         // parsing was successful, queue for our recipient
 
-        sniffReceived(p);
+        assert(0); // FIXME, call any promiscious plugins here, make a (non promisiocous) plugin for forwarding messages to phone api 
+        // sniffReceived(p);
 
         if (p->to == NODENUM_BROADCAST || p->to == getNodeNum()) {
             printPacket("Delivering rx packet", p);
diff --git a/src/mesh/Router.h b/src/mesh/Router.h
index 3951f3062..e9a10dae1 100644
--- a/src/mesh/Router.h
+++ b/src/mesh/Router.h
@@ -68,6 +68,8 @@ class Router : protected concurrency::OSThread
     NodeNum getNodeNum();
 
   protected:
+    friend class RoutingPlugin;
+
     /**
      * Send a packet on a suitable interface.  This routine will
      * later free() the packet to pool.  This routine is not allowed to stall.
@@ -79,6 +81,8 @@ class Router : protected concurrency::OSThread
 
     /**
      * Should this incoming filter be dropped?
+     * 
+     * FIXME, move this into the new RoutingPlugin and do the filtering there using the regular plugin logic
      *
      * Called immedately on receiption, before any further processing.
      * @return true to abandon the packet
@@ -89,7 +93,7 @@ class Router : protected concurrency::OSThread
      * Every (non duplicate) packet this node receives will be passed through this method.  This allows subclasses to
      * update routing tables etc... based on what we overhear (even for messages not destined to our node)
      */
-    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p);
+    virtual void sniffReceived(const MeshPacket *p, const Routing &c);
 
     /**
      * Remove any encryption and decode the protobufs inside this packet (if necessary).
@@ -101,7 +105,7 @@ class Router : protected concurrency::OSThread
     /**
      * Send an ack or a nak packet back towards whoever sent idFrom
      */
-    void sendAckNak(ErrorReason err, NodeNum to, PacketId idFrom);
+    void sendAckNak(Routing_Error err, NodeNum to, PacketId idFrom);
     
   private:
     /**
diff --git a/src/mesh/SinglePortPlugin.h b/src/mesh/SinglePortPlugin.h
index d182579b7..5fa609dd4 100644
--- a/src/mesh/SinglePortPlugin.h
+++ b/src/mesh/SinglePortPlugin.h
@@ -32,8 +32,7 @@ class SinglePortPlugin : public MeshPlugin
     {
         // Update our local node info with our position (even if we don't decide to update anyone else)
         MeshPacket *p = router->allocForSending();
-        p->decoded.which_payloadVariant = SubPacket_data_tag;
-        p->decoded.data.portnum = ourPortNum;
+        p->decoded.portnum = ourPortNum;
 
         return p;
     }
diff --git a/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.c b/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.c
index c93d63292..d6f17d7f7 100644
--- a/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.c
+++ b/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.c
@@ -9,4 +9,7 @@
 PB_BIND(ServiceEnvelope, ServiceEnvelope, 2)
 
 
+PB_BIND(ChannelSet, ChannelSet, AUTO)
+
+
 
diff --git a/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.h b/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.h
index fbf80324b..af527f0c8 100644
--- a/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.h
+++ b/src/mesh/generated/apponly.pb.h
@@ -11,6 +11,10 @@
 #endif
 
 /* Struct definitions */
+typedef struct _ChannelSet {
+    pb_callback_t settings;
+} ChannelSet;
+
 typedef struct _ServiceEnvelope {
     bool has_packet;
     MeshPacket packet;
@@ -25,9 +29,12 @@ extern "C" {
 
 /* Initializer values for message structs */
 #define ServiceEnvelope_init_default             {false, MeshPacket_init_default, {{NULL}, NULL}, {{NULL}, NULL}}
+#define ChannelSet_init_default                  {{{NULL}, NULL}}
 #define ServiceEnvelope_init_zero                {false, MeshPacket_init_zero, {{NULL}, NULL}, {{NULL}, NULL}}
+#define ChannelSet_init_zero                     {{{NULL}, NULL}}
 
 /* Field tags (for use in manual encoding/decoding) */
+#define ChannelSet_settings_tag                  1
 #define ServiceEnvelope_packet_tag               1
 #define ServiceEnvelope_channel_id_tag           2
 #define ServiceEnvelope_gateway_id_tag           3
@@ -41,13 +48,22 @@ X(a, CALLBACK, SINGULAR, STRING,   gateway_id,        3)
 #define ServiceEnvelope_DEFAULT NULL
 #define ServiceEnvelope_packet_MSGTYPE MeshPacket
 
+#define ChannelSet_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
+X(a, CALLBACK, REPEATED, MESSAGE,  settings,          1)
+#define ChannelSet_CALLBACK pb_default_field_callback
+#define ChannelSet_DEFAULT NULL
+#define ChannelSet_settings_MSGTYPE ChannelSettings
+
 extern const pb_msgdesc_t ServiceEnvelope_msg;
+extern const pb_msgdesc_t ChannelSet_msg;
 
 /* Defines for backwards compatibility with code written before nanopb-0.4.0 */
 #define ServiceEnvelope_fields &ServiceEnvelope_msg
+#define ChannelSet_fields &ChannelSet_msg
 
 /* Maximum encoded size of messages (where known) */
 /* ServiceEnvelope_size depends on runtime parameters */
+/* ChannelSet_size depends on runtime parameters */
 
 #ifdef __cplusplus
 } /* extern "C" */
diff --git a/src/mesh/generated/deviceonly.pb.h b/src/mesh/generated/deviceonly.pb.h
index e1f4c4010..47ffe2ae3 100644
--- a/src/mesh/generated/deviceonly.pb.h
+++ b/src/mesh/generated/deviceonly.pb.h
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ extern const pb_msgdesc_t DeviceState_msg;
 #define DeviceState_fields &DeviceState_msg
 
 /* Maximum encoded size of messages (where known) */
-#define DeviceState_size                         6265
+#define DeviceState_size                         6225
 
 #ifdef __cplusplus
 } /* extern "C" */
diff --git a/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.c b/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.c
index 872447623..c4fd0d8e5 100644
--- a/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.c
+++ b/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.c
@@ -9,16 +9,16 @@
 PB_BIND(Position, Position, AUTO)
 
 
-PB_BIND(Data, Data, AUTO)
-
-
 PB_BIND(User, User, AUTO)
 
 
 PB_BIND(RouteDiscovery, RouteDiscovery, AUTO)
 
 
-PB_BIND(SubPacket, SubPacket, 2)
+PB_BIND(Routing, Routing, AUTO)
+
+
+PB_BIND(Data, Data, 2)
 
 
 PB_BIND(MeshPacket, MeshPacket, 2)
diff --git a/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.h b/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.h
index 691b4cd78..ca47ffa89 100644
--- a/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.h
+++ b/src/mesh/generated/mesh.pb.h
@@ -11,15 +11,6 @@
 #endif
 
 /* Enum definitions */
-typedef enum _ErrorReason {
-    ErrorReason_NONE = 0,
-    ErrorReason_NO_ROUTE = 1,
-    ErrorReason_GOT_NAK = 2,
-    ErrorReason_TIMEOUT = 3,
-    ErrorReason_NO_INTERFACE = 4,
-    ErrorReason_MAX_RETRANSMIT = 5
-} ErrorReason;
-
 typedef enum _Constants {
     Constants_Unused = 0,
     Constants_DATA_PAYLOAD_LEN = 240
@@ -83,6 +74,15 @@ typedef enum _CriticalErrorCode {
     CriticalErrorCode_TransmitFailed = 8
 } CriticalErrorCode;
 
+typedef enum _Routing_Error {
+    Routing_Error_NONE = 0,
+    Routing_Error_NO_ROUTE = 1,
+    Routing_Error_GOT_NAK = 2,
+    Routing_Error_TIMEOUT = 3,
+    Routing_Error_NO_INTERFACE = 4,
+    Routing_Error_MAX_RETRANSMIT = 5
+} Routing_Error;
+
 typedef enum _MeshPacket_Priority {
     MeshPacket_Priority_UNSET = 0,
     MeshPacket_Priority_MIN = 1,
@@ -136,6 +136,9 @@ typedef PB_BYTES_ARRAY_T(240) Data_payload_t;
 typedef struct _Data {
     PortNum portnum;
     Data_payload_t payload;
+    bool want_response;
+    uint32_t dest;
+    uint32_t source;
 } Data;
 
 typedef struct _LogRecord {
@@ -216,7 +219,7 @@ typedef struct _RadioConfig_UserPreferences {
 
 typedef struct _RouteDiscovery {
     pb_size_t route_count;
-    int32_t route[8];
+    uint32_t route[8];
 } RouteDiscovery;
 
 typedef struct _User {
@@ -233,6 +236,24 @@ typedef struct _Channel {
     Channel_Role role;
 } Channel;
 
+typedef PB_BYTES_ARRAY_T(256) MeshPacket_encrypted_t;
+typedef struct _MeshPacket {
+    uint32_t from;
+    uint32_t to;
+    pb_size_t which_payloadVariant;
+    union {
+        Data decoded;
+        MeshPacket_encrypted_t encrypted;
+    };
+    uint32_t channel_index;
+    uint32_t id;
+    float rx_snr;
+    uint32_t rx_time;
+    uint32_t hop_limit;
+    bool want_ack;
+    MeshPacket_Priority priority;
+} MeshPacket;
+
 typedef struct _NodeInfo {
     uint32_t num;
     bool has_user;
@@ -248,48 +269,22 @@ typedef struct _RadioConfig {
     RadioConfig_UserPreferences preferences;
 } RadioConfig;
 
-typedef struct _SubPacket {
-    uint32_t original_id;
-    pb_size_t which_payloadVariant;
+typedef struct _Routing {
+    pb_size_t which_variant;
     union {
-        Data data;
         RouteDiscovery route_request;
         RouteDiscovery route_reply;
-        ErrorReason error_reason;
-    };
-    bool want_response;
-    uint32_t dest;
-    pb_size_t which_ackVariant;
-    union {
+        Routing_Error error_reason;
         uint32_t success_id;
         uint32_t fail_id;
-    } ackVariant;
-    uint32_t source;
-} SubPacket;
-
-typedef PB_BYTES_ARRAY_T(256) MeshPacket_encrypted_t;
-typedef struct _MeshPacket {
-    uint32_t from;
-    uint32_t to;
-    pb_size_t which_payloadVariant;
-    union {
-        SubPacket decoded;
-        MeshPacket_encrypted_t encrypted;
     };
-    uint32_t channel_index;
-    uint32_t id;
-    float rx_snr;
-    uint32_t rx_time;
-    uint32_t hop_limit;
-    bool want_ack;
-    MeshPacket_Priority priority;
-} MeshPacket;
+    uint32_t original_id;
+} Routing;
 
 typedef struct _FromRadio {
     uint32_t num;
     pb_size_t which_payloadVariant;
     union {
-        MeshPacket packet;
         MyNodeInfo my_info;
         NodeInfo node_info;
         RadioConfig radio;
@@ -297,6 +292,7 @@ typedef struct _FromRadio {
         uint32_t config_complete_id;
         bool rebooted;
         Channel channel;
+        MeshPacket packet;
     };
 } FromRadio;
 
@@ -313,10 +309,6 @@ typedef struct _ToRadio {
 
 
 /* Helper constants for enums */
-#define _ErrorReason_MIN ErrorReason_NONE
-#define _ErrorReason_MAX ErrorReason_MAX_RETRANSMIT
-#define _ErrorReason_ARRAYSIZE ((ErrorReason)(ErrorReason_MAX_RETRANSMIT+1))
-
 #define _Constants_MIN Constants_Unused
 #define _Constants_MAX Constants_DATA_PAYLOAD_LEN
 #define _Constants_ARRAYSIZE ((Constants)(Constants_DATA_PAYLOAD_LEN+1))
@@ -341,6 +333,10 @@ typedef struct _ToRadio {
 #define _CriticalErrorCode_MAX CriticalErrorCode_TransmitFailed
 #define _CriticalErrorCode_ARRAYSIZE ((CriticalErrorCode)(CriticalErrorCode_TransmitFailed+1))
 
+#define _Routing_Error_MIN Routing_Error_NONE
+#define _Routing_Error_MAX Routing_Error_MAX_RETRANSMIT
+#define _Routing_Error_ARRAYSIZE ((Routing_Error)(Routing_Error_MAX_RETRANSMIT+1))
+
 #define _MeshPacket_Priority_MIN MeshPacket_Priority_UNSET
 #define _MeshPacket_Priority_MAX MeshPacket_Priority_MAX
 #define _MeshPacket_Priority_ARRAYSIZE ((MeshPacket_Priority)(MeshPacket_Priority_MAX+1))
@@ -364,11 +360,11 @@ extern "C" {
 
 /* Initializer values for message structs */
 #define Position_init_default                    {0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
-#define Data_init_default                        {_PortNum_MIN, {0, {0}}}
 #define User_init_default                        {"", "", "", {0}}
 #define RouteDiscovery_init_default              {0, {0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}}
-#define SubPacket_init_default                   {0, 0, {Data_init_default}, 0, 0, 0, {0}, 0}
-#define MeshPacket_init_default                  {0, 0, 0, {SubPacket_init_default}, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, _MeshPacket_Priority_MIN}
+#define Routing_init_default                     {0, {RouteDiscovery_init_default}, 0}
+#define Data_init_default                        {_PortNum_MIN, {0, {0}}, 0, 0, 0}
+#define MeshPacket_init_default                  {0, 0, 0, {Data_init_default}, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, _MeshPacket_Priority_MIN}
 #define ChannelSettings_init_default             {0, _ChannelSettings_ModemConfig_MIN, {0, {0}}, "", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
 #define Channel_init_default                     {0, false, ChannelSettings_init_default, _Channel_Role_MIN}
 #define RadioConfig_init_default                 {false, RadioConfig_UserPreferences_init_default}
@@ -376,14 +372,14 @@ extern "C" {
 #define NodeInfo_init_default                    {0, false, User_init_default, false, Position_init_default, 0, 0}
 #define MyNodeInfo_init_default                  {0, 0, 0, "", "", "", _CriticalErrorCode_MIN, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
 #define LogRecord_init_default                   {"", 0, "", _LogRecord_Level_MIN}
-#define FromRadio_init_default                   {0, 0, {MeshPacket_init_default}}
+#define FromRadio_init_default                   {0, 0, {MyNodeInfo_init_default}}
 #define ToRadio_init_default                     {0, {MeshPacket_init_default}}
 #define Position_init_zero                       {0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
-#define Data_init_zero                           {_PortNum_MIN, {0, {0}}}
 #define User_init_zero                           {"", "", "", {0}}
 #define RouteDiscovery_init_zero                 {0, {0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}}
-#define SubPacket_init_zero                      {0, 0, {Data_init_zero}, 0, 0, 0, {0}, 0}
-#define MeshPacket_init_zero                     {0, 0, 0, {SubPacket_init_zero}, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, _MeshPacket_Priority_MIN}
+#define Routing_init_zero                        {0, {RouteDiscovery_init_zero}, 0}
+#define Data_init_zero                           {_PortNum_MIN, {0, {0}}, 0, 0, 0}
+#define MeshPacket_init_zero                     {0, 0, 0, {Data_init_zero}, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, _MeshPacket_Priority_MIN}
 #define ChannelSettings_init_zero                {0, _ChannelSettings_ModemConfig_MIN, {0, {0}}, "", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
 #define Channel_init_zero                        {0, false, ChannelSettings_init_zero, _Channel_Role_MIN}
 #define RadioConfig_init_zero                    {false, RadioConfig_UserPreferences_init_zero}
@@ -391,7 +387,7 @@ extern "C" {
 #define NodeInfo_init_zero                       {0, false, User_init_zero, false, Position_init_zero, 0, 0}
 #define MyNodeInfo_init_zero                     {0, 0, 0, "", "", "", _CriticalErrorCode_MIN, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
 #define LogRecord_init_zero                      {"", 0, "", _LogRecord_Level_MIN}
-#define FromRadio_init_zero                      {0, 0, {MeshPacket_init_zero}}
+#define FromRadio_init_zero                      {0, 0, {MyNodeInfo_init_zero}}
 #define ToRadio_init_zero                        {0, {MeshPacket_init_zero}}
 
 /* Field tags (for use in manual encoding/decoding) */
@@ -408,6 +404,9 @@ extern "C" {
 #define ChannelSettings_downlink_enabled_tag     17
 #define Data_portnum_tag                         1
 #define Data_payload_tag                         2
+#define Data_want_response_tag                   5
+#define Data_dest_tag                            9
+#define Data_source_tag                          12
 #define LogRecord_message_tag                    1
 #define LogRecord_time_tag                       2
 #define LogRecord_source_tag                     3
@@ -479,22 +478,6 @@ extern "C" {
 #define Channel_index_tag                        1
 #define Channel_settings_tag                     2
 #define Channel_role_tag                         3
-#define NodeInfo_num_tag                         1
-#define NodeInfo_user_tag                        2
-#define NodeInfo_position_tag                    3
-#define NodeInfo_next_hop_tag                    5
-#define NodeInfo_snr_tag                         7
-#define RadioConfig_preferences_tag              1
-#define SubPacket_original_id_tag                2
-#define SubPacket_data_tag                       3
-#define SubPacket_route_request_tag              6
-#define SubPacket_route_reply_tag                7
-#define SubPacket_error_reason_tag               13
-#define SubPacket_want_response_tag              5
-#define SubPacket_dest_tag                       9
-#define SubPacket_success_id_tag                 10
-#define SubPacket_fail_id_tag                    11
-#define SubPacket_source_tag                     12
 #define MeshPacket_from_tag                      1
 #define MeshPacket_to_tag                        2
 #define MeshPacket_decoded_tag                   3
@@ -506,8 +489,19 @@ extern "C" {
 #define MeshPacket_hop_limit_tag                 10
 #define MeshPacket_want_ack_tag                  11
 #define MeshPacket_priority_tag                  12
+#define NodeInfo_num_tag                         1
+#define NodeInfo_user_tag                        2
+#define NodeInfo_position_tag                    3
+#define NodeInfo_next_hop_tag                    5
+#define NodeInfo_snr_tag                         7
+#define RadioConfig_preferences_tag              1
+#define Routing_route_request_tag                1
+#define Routing_route_reply_tag                  2
+#define Routing_error_reason_tag                 3
+#define Routing_success_id_tag                   4
+#define Routing_fail_id_tag                      5
+#define Routing_original_id_tag                  6
 #define FromRadio_num_tag                        1
-#define FromRadio_packet_tag                     2
 #define FromRadio_my_info_tag                    3
 #define FromRadio_node_info_tag                  4
 #define FromRadio_radio_tag                      6
@@ -515,7 +509,8 @@ extern "C" {
 #define FromRadio_config_complete_id_tag         8
 #define FromRadio_rebooted_tag                   9
 #define FromRadio_channel_tag                    10
-#define ToRadio_packet_tag                       1
+#define FromRadio_packet_tag                     11
+#define ToRadio_packet_tag                       2
 #define ToRadio_want_config_id_tag               100
 #define ToRadio_set_radio_tag                    101
 #define ToRadio_set_owner_tag                    102
@@ -531,12 +526,6 @@ X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  time,              9)
 #define Position_CALLBACK NULL
 #define Position_DEFAULT NULL
 
-#define Data_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UENUM,    portnum,           1) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, BYTES,    payload,           2)
-#define Data_CALLBACK NULL
-#define Data_DEFAULT NULL
-
 #define User_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, STRING,   id,                1) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, STRING,   long_name,         2) \
@@ -546,34 +535,38 @@ X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED_LENGTH_BYTES, macaddr,           4)
 #define User_DEFAULT NULL
 
 #define RouteDiscovery_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
-X(a, STATIC,   REPEATED, INT32,    route,             2)
+X(a, STATIC,   REPEATED, FIXED32,  route,             2)
 #define RouteDiscovery_CALLBACK NULL
 #define RouteDiscovery_DEFAULT NULL
 
-#define SubPacket_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   original_id,       2) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,data,data),   3) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,route_request,route_request),   6) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,route_reply,route_reply),   7) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    UENUM,    (payloadVariant,error_reason,error_reason),  13) \
+#define Routing_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (variant,route_request,route_request),   1) \
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (variant,route_reply,route_reply),   2) \
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    UENUM,    (variant,error_reason,error_reason),   3) \
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    FIXED32,  (variant,success_id,success_id),   4) \
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    FIXED32,  (variant,fail_id,fail_id),   5) \
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  original_id,       6)
+#define Routing_CALLBACK NULL
+#define Routing_DEFAULT NULL
+#define Routing_variant_route_request_MSGTYPE RouteDiscovery
+#define Routing_variant_route_reply_MSGTYPE RouteDiscovery
+
+#define Data_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UENUM,    portnum,           1) \
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, BYTES,    payload,           2) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, BOOL,     want_response,     5) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   dest,              9) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    UINT32,   (ackVariant,success_id,ackVariant.success_id),  10) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    UINT32,   (ackVariant,fail_id,ackVariant.fail_id),  11) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   source,           12)
-#define SubPacket_CALLBACK NULL
-#define SubPacket_DEFAULT NULL
-#define SubPacket_payloadVariant_data_MSGTYPE Data
-#define SubPacket_payloadVariant_route_request_MSGTYPE RouteDiscovery
-#define SubPacket_payloadVariant_route_reply_MSGTYPE RouteDiscovery
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  dest,              9) \
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  source,           12)
+#define Data_CALLBACK NULL
+#define Data_DEFAULT NULL
 
 #define MeshPacket_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   from,              1) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   to,                2) \
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  from,              1) \
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  to,                2) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,decoded,decoded),   3) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    BYTES,    (payloadVariant,encrypted,encrypted),   8) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   channel_index,     4) \
-X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   id,                6) \
+X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  id,                6) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FLOAT,    rx_snr,            7) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, FIXED32,  rx_time,           9) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   hop_limit,        10) \
@@ -581,7 +574,7 @@ X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, BOOL,     want_ack,         11) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UENUM,    priority,         12)
 #define MeshPacket_CALLBACK NULL
 #define MeshPacket_DEFAULT NULL
-#define MeshPacket_payloadVariant_decoded_MSGTYPE SubPacket
+#define MeshPacket_payloadVariant_decoded_MSGTYPE Data
 
 #define ChannelSettings_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, INT32,    tx_power,          1) \
@@ -695,25 +688,25 @@ X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UENUM,    level,             4)
 
 #define FromRadio_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
 X(a, STATIC,   SINGULAR, UINT32,   num,               1) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,packet,packet),   2) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,my_info,my_info),   3) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,node_info,node_info),   4) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,radio,radio),   6) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,log_record,log_record),   7) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    UINT32,   (payloadVariant,config_complete_id,config_complete_id),   8) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    BOOL,     (payloadVariant,rebooted,rebooted),   9) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,channel,channel),  10)
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,channel,channel),  10) \
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,packet,packet),  11)
 #define FromRadio_CALLBACK NULL
 #define FromRadio_DEFAULT NULL
-#define FromRadio_payloadVariant_packet_MSGTYPE MeshPacket
 #define FromRadio_payloadVariant_my_info_MSGTYPE MyNodeInfo
 #define FromRadio_payloadVariant_node_info_MSGTYPE NodeInfo
 #define FromRadio_payloadVariant_radio_MSGTYPE RadioConfig
 #define FromRadio_payloadVariant_log_record_MSGTYPE LogRecord
 #define FromRadio_payloadVariant_channel_MSGTYPE Channel
+#define FromRadio_payloadVariant_packet_MSGTYPE MeshPacket
 
 #define ToRadio_FIELDLIST(X, a) \
-X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,packet,packet),   1) \
+X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,packet,packet),   2) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    UINT32,   (payloadVariant,want_config_id,want_config_id), 100) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,set_radio,set_radio), 101) \
 X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,set_owner,set_owner), 102) \
@@ -726,10 +719,10 @@ X(a, STATIC,   ONEOF,    MESSAGE,  (payloadVariant,set_channel,set_channel), 104
 #define ToRadio_payloadVariant_set_channel_MSGTYPE Channel
 
 extern const pb_msgdesc_t Position_msg;
-extern const pb_msgdesc_t Data_msg;
 extern const pb_msgdesc_t User_msg;
 extern const pb_msgdesc_t RouteDiscovery_msg;
-extern const pb_msgdesc_t SubPacket_msg;
+extern const pb_msgdesc_t Routing_msg;
+extern const pb_msgdesc_t Data_msg;
 extern const pb_msgdesc_t MeshPacket_msg;
 extern const pb_msgdesc_t ChannelSettings_msg;
 extern const pb_msgdesc_t Channel_msg;
@@ -743,10 +736,10 @@ extern const pb_msgdesc_t ToRadio_msg;
 
 /* Defines for backwards compatibility with code written before nanopb-0.4.0 */
 #define Position_fields &Position_msg
-#define Data_fields &Data_msg
 #define User_fields &User_msg
 #define RouteDiscovery_fields &RouteDiscovery_msg
-#define SubPacket_fields &SubPacket_msg
+#define Routing_fields &Routing_msg
+#define Data_fields &Data_msg
 #define MeshPacket_fields &MeshPacket_msg
 #define ChannelSettings_fields &ChannelSettings_msg
 #define Channel_fields &Channel_msg
@@ -760,11 +753,11 @@ extern const pb_msgdesc_t ToRadio_msg;
 
 /* Maximum encoded size of messages (where known) */
 #define Position_size                            37
-#define Data_size                                246
 #define User_size                                72
-#define RouteDiscovery_size                      88
-#define SubPacket_size                           275
-#define MeshPacket_size                          322
+#define RouteDiscovery_size                      40
+#define Routing_size                             47
+#define Data_size                                258
+#define MeshPacket_size                          302
 #define ChannelSettings_size                     95
 #define Channel_size                             105
 #define RadioConfig_size                         308
@@ -772,8 +765,8 @@ extern const pb_msgdesc_t ToRadio_msg;
 #define NodeInfo_size                            130
 #define MyNodeInfo_size                          89
 #define LogRecord_size                           81
-#define FromRadio_size                           331
-#define ToRadio_size                             325
+#define FromRadio_size                           317
+#define ToRadio_size                             312
 
 #ifdef __cplusplus
 } /* extern "C" */
diff --git a/src/mesh/generated/portnums.pb.h b/src/mesh/generated/portnums.pb.h
index 2133ecaa7..72360f295 100644
--- a/src/mesh/generated/portnums.pb.h
+++ b/src/mesh/generated/portnums.pb.h
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ typedef enum _PortNum {
     PortNum_REMOTE_HARDWARE_APP = 2,
     PortNum_POSITION_APP = 3,
     PortNum_NODEINFO_APP = 4,
+    PortNum_ROUTING_APP = 5,
     PortNum_REPLY_APP = 32,
     PortNum_IP_TUNNEL_APP = 33,
     PortNum_SERIAL_APP = 64,
diff --git a/src/mesh/mesh-pb-constants.h b/src/mesh/mesh-pb-constants.h
index ed1c4f7e8..21163c496 100644
--- a/src/mesh/mesh-pb-constants.h
+++ b/src/mesh/mesh-pb-constants.h
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
 #define MAX_NUM_NODES (member_size(DeviceState, node_db) / member_size(DeviceState, node_db[0]))
 
 /// Max number of channels allowed
-#define MAX_CHANNELS (member_size(DeviceState, channels) / member_size(DeviceState, channels[0]))
+#define MAX_NUM_CHANNELS (member_size(DeviceState, channels) / member_size(DeviceState, channels[0]))
 
 /// helper function for encoding a record as a protobuf, any failures to encode are fatal and we will panic
 /// returns the encoded packet size
diff --git a/src/plugins/Plugins.cpp b/src/plugins/Plugins.cpp
index ac8dd7336..65cfdcee4 100644
--- a/src/plugins/Plugins.cpp
+++ b/src/plugins/Plugins.cpp
@@ -7,12 +7,14 @@
 #include "plugins/SerialPlugin.h"
 #include "plugins/StoreForwardPlugin.h"
 #include "plugins/TextMessagePlugin.h"
+#include "plugins/RoutingPlugin.h"
 
 /**
  * Create plugin instances here.  If you are adding a new plugin, you must 'new' it here (or somewhere else)
  */
 void setupPlugins()
 {
+    routingPlugin = new RoutingPlugin();
     nodeInfoPlugin = new NodeInfoPlugin();
     positionPlugin = new PositionPlugin();
     textMessagePlugin = new TextMessagePlugin();
diff --git a/src/plugins/RangeTestPlugin.cpp b/src/plugins/RangeTestPlugin.cpp
index 58150f5bb..dc5f30048 100644
--- a/src/plugins/RangeTestPlugin.cpp
+++ b/src/plugins/RangeTestPlugin.cpp
@@ -108,8 +108,8 @@ void RangeTestPluginRadio::sendPayload(NodeNum dest, bool wantReplies)
     static char heartbeatString[20];
     snprintf(heartbeatString, sizeof(heartbeatString), "seq %d", packetSequence);
 
-    p->decoded.data.payload.size = strlen(heartbeatString); // You must specify how many bytes are in the reply
-    memcpy(p->decoded.data.payload.bytes, heartbeatString, p->decoded.data.payload.size);
+    p->decoded.payload.size = strlen(heartbeatString); // You must specify how many bytes are in the reply
+    memcpy(p->decoded.payload.bytes, heartbeatString, p->decoded.payload.size);
 
     service.sendToMesh(p);
 }
diff --git a/src/plugins/ReplyPlugin.cpp b/src/plugins/ReplyPlugin.cpp
index a8c607436..69903aa36 100644
--- a/src/plugins/ReplyPlugin.cpp
+++ b/src/plugins/ReplyPlugin.cpp
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ MeshPacket *ReplyPlugin::allocReply()
 {
     assert(currentRequest); // should always be !NULL
     auto req = *currentRequest;
-    auto &p = req.decoded.data;
+    auto &p = req.decoded;
     // The incoming message is in p.payload
     DEBUG_MSG("Received message from=0x%0x, id=%d, msg=%.*s\n", req.from, req.id, p.payload.size, p.payload.bytes);
 
@@ -17,8 +17,8 @@ MeshPacket *ReplyPlugin::allocReply()
 
     const char *replyStr = "Message Received";
     auto reply = allocDataPacket();                      // Allocate a packet for sending
-    reply->decoded.data.payload.size = strlen(replyStr); // You must specify how many bytes are in the reply
-    memcpy(reply->decoded.data.payload.bytes, replyStr, reply->decoded.data.payload.size);
+    reply->decoded.payload.size = strlen(replyStr); // You must specify how many bytes are in the reply
+    memcpy(reply->decoded.payload.bytes, replyStr, reply->decoded.payload.size);
 
     return reply;
 }
diff --git a/src/plugins/RoutingPlugin.cpp b/src/plugins/RoutingPlugin.cpp
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..6f4c2123b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/plugins/RoutingPlugin.cpp
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+#include "RoutingPlugin.h"
+#include "MeshService.h"
+#include "NodeDB.h"
+#include "RTC.h"
+#include "Router.h"
+#include "configuration.h"
+#include "main.h"
+
+RoutingPlugin *routingPlugin;
+
+bool RoutingPlugin::handleReceivedProtobuf(const MeshPacket &mp, const Routing &p)
+{
+
+    return false; // Let others look at this message also if they want
+}
+
+
+MeshPacket *RoutingPlugin::allocReply()
+{
+    assert(0); // 1.2 refactoring fixme, Not sure if anything needs this yet?
+    // return allocDataProtobuf(u);
+    return NULL;
+}
+
+void RoutingPlugin::sendAckNak(Routing_Error err, NodeNum to, PacketId idFrom)
+{
+    Routing c = Routing_init_default;
+    
+    if (!err) {
+        c.success_id = idFrom;
+    } else {
+        c.fail_id = idFrom;
+
+        // Also send back the error reason
+        c.error_reason = err;
+    }
+
+    auto p = allocDataProtobuf(c);
+    p->priority = MeshPacket_Priority_ACK;
+
+    p->hop_limit = 0; // Assume just immediate neighbors for now
+    p->to = to;
+    DEBUG_MSG("Sending an err=%d,to=0x%x,idFrom=0x%x,id=0x%x\n", err, to, idFrom, p->id);
+
+    router->sendLocal(p); // we sometimes send directly to the local node
+}
+
+RoutingPlugin::RoutingPlugin()
+    : ProtobufPlugin("routing", PortNum_ROUTING_APP, User_fields)
+{
+    isPromiscuous = true;
+}
+
+
diff --git a/src/plugins/RoutingPlugin.h b/src/plugins/RoutingPlugin.h
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..080b8fe12
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/plugins/RoutingPlugin.h
@@ -0,0 +1,31 @@
+#pragma once
+#include "ProtobufPlugin.h"
+
+/**
+ * Routing plugin for router control messages
+ */
+class RoutingPlugin : public ProtobufPlugin<Routing>
+{
+  public:
+    /** Constructor
+     * name is for debugging output
+     */
+    RoutingPlugin();
+
+  protected:
+    friend class Router;
+
+    /** Called to handle a particular incoming message
+
+    @return true if you've guaranteed you've handled this message and no other handlers should be considered for it
+    */
+    virtual bool handleReceivedProtobuf(const MeshPacket &mp, const Routing &p);
+
+    /** Messages can be received that have the want_response bit set.  If set, this callback will be invoked
+     * so that subclasses can (optionally) send a response back to the original sender.  */
+    virtual MeshPacket *allocReply(); 
+
+    void sendAckNak(Routing_Error err, NodeNum to, PacketId idFrom);
+};
+
+extern RoutingPlugin *routingPlugin;
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/src/plugins/SerialPlugin.cpp b/src/plugins/SerialPlugin.cpp
index 47f279089..a3493c880 100644
--- a/src/plugins/SerialPlugin.cpp
+++ b/src/plugins/SerialPlugin.cpp
@@ -144,8 +144,8 @@ void SerialPluginRadio::sendPayload(NodeNum dest, bool wantReplies)
 
     p->want_ack = SERIALPLUGIN_ACK;
 
-    p->decoded.data.payload.size = strlen(serialStringChar); // You must specify how many bytes are in the reply
-    memcpy(p->decoded.data.payload.bytes, serialStringChar, p->decoded.data.payload.size);
+    p->decoded.payload.size = strlen(serialStringChar); // You must specify how many bytes are in the reply
+    memcpy(p->decoded.payload.bytes, serialStringChar, p->decoded.payload.size);
 
     service.sendToMesh(p);
 }
diff --git a/src/plugins/TextMessagePlugin.cpp b/src/plugins/TextMessagePlugin.cpp
index 4ad080702..8da2a10f9 100644
--- a/src/plugins/TextMessagePlugin.cpp
+++ b/src/plugins/TextMessagePlugin.cpp
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ TextMessagePlugin *textMessagePlugin;
 
 bool TextMessagePlugin::handleReceived(const MeshPacket &mp)
 {
-    auto &p = mp.decoded.data;
+    auto &p = mp.decoded;
     DEBUG_MSG("Received text msg from=0x%0x, id=%d, msg=%.*s\n", mp.from, mp.id, p.payload.size, p.payload.bytes);
 
     // We only store/display messages destined for us.